liltaka Posted August 4, 2013 Report Posted August 4, 2013 Just came out of a horrible pre-purchase inspection... Already planned for a trip to close the deal and owner / seller basically lied everything about the plane. Looking for an honest seller who has been taken care of the airplane... Prefers Dynon 100 & 120 installed...
sandpiper Posted August 4, 2013 Report Posted August 4, 2013 Just came out of a horrible pre-purchase inspection... Already planned for a trip to close the deal and owner / seller basically lied everything about the plane. Looking for an honest seller who has been taken care of the airplane... Prefers Dynon 100 & 120 installed... I wish you luck. The last time I bought a used plane was a C-182 in 2003. I went through 3 pre buys each involving travel up to 1,000 miles. These were private sellers. Outright lies, shaded truth, lack of 337's or logbook entries. One claimed minor nose gear damage typical of many 182's. Research showed it landed short at SeaTac. How the heck do you land a 182 short at SeaTac? Damage was extensive. Another claimed NDH. But wait, why does it have two different wing spars?? Beautiful repair, just nothing in the log book. Last guy said "corrosion free". It was a mess inside the wings. Guy said "well, for this part of the country this is pretty good". Finally stumbled on one walking in parking at Falcon Field in AZ. Wasn't even looking but that was the one. Don't mean to discourage. You'll find one but you have to be careful. Make sure your pre buy is done by someone familiar with make/model you are buying.
liltaka Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Posted August 4, 2013 Thanks John, a little disappointed but not discouraged yet. Few more thing... 1. I am already pre-qualified for the loan 2. Have tickets already to visit Phoenix this Saturday But, only have 3 days to cancel this trip... If anyone selling CTsw in AZ, I can only wait for 3 more days. After that, I have to wait for another several weeks to a month before I can take time off again...
FlyingMonkey Posted August 4, 2013 Report Posted August 4, 2013 Don't give up, it can be done. I looked at CTs in general for probably 6-12 months and specifically talked to owners of several that didn't work out before ending up with N509CT last week. It has a D100 but gauges instead of a D120. It had 117 hours total time and is literally in like-new condition. I paid right in your price range plus expenses of the delivery pilot from Nebraska to Georgia. The deals are out there, you just have to be patient. When you find the right one you will know it. Engage this forum to help, the CT owners and mechanics are a small enough community that a lot of the owners know each other and know what's out there and when a nice bird becomes available.
Ed Cesnalis Posted August 4, 2013 Report Posted August 4, 2013 Used is abused, especially with airplanes. What kind of used airplanes have your bought? What was abused specifically? I truly thought that many owners were meticulous in caring for their aircraft.
FastEddieB Posted August 4, 2013 Report Posted August 4, 2013 I don't know how it compares to a new CT, but... ...in the Cirrus world, new planes often have an extended period of "bugginess". Lots of niggling problems that need to be sorted out. To the point that, to some, a lightly used example that's been "sorted out" is sometimes seen as an advantage. My Sky Arrow only had two small issues - ailerons that had to be "reflexed" a bit to feel right, and axle spacers that had to be replaced because modified ones had just been introduced. "New Plane Smell" comes at a cost. Compare an $80k used CT to a $160k new one. $80k in savings can go a very long way to sort out wear or other maintenance issues that might crop up.
josjonkers Posted August 4, 2013 Report Posted August 4, 2013 Used is abused, especially with airplanes. That is quite the statement to which I take exception. Not sure what your agenda is but you post is irrelevant.
Ed Cesnalis Posted August 4, 2013 Report Posted August 4, 2013 I treat my CTSW with a very high level of respect. It is the finest aircraft that I have ever owned 100%, I appreciate the way it flies. When the time comes and I am done flying I will not sell this airplane, I will instead bestow it on someone that will continue to appreciate it as I do.
liltaka Posted August 9, 2013 Author Report Posted August 9, 2013 Basically, Roger saved us from the disastrous situation. He is nothing but "amazing" in my book...without meeting face to face, he just took our "disaster" situation into "The Best" purchasing experience...in less than 5 days...unbelievable. What are you? Who are you? Michael Jordan in 4th quarter? Who can do that?...especially we are talking about purchasing aircraft. I still can't wrap my head around what happened right now.. We were in a terrible situation only 5 days ago, Roger turned the situation around in less than 24 hours. Then, now we are in the best hands...on top of that, previous owner (Bill) is a such a nice person to talk to & work with... P.S. - my agent who tried to sell the other CTSW told me "Roger is too picky"...What? Are you out of your mind? It's our lives at stake! Roger is the only one who looked after our interest for the entire time. THANK YOU SIR! - sorry I am still stuck on MJ since we are from Chicago...
FlyingMonkey Posted August 9, 2013 Report Posted August 9, 2013 Basically, Roger saved us from the disastrous situation. He is nothing but "amazing" in my book...without meeting face to face, he just took our "disaster" situation into "The Best" purchasing experience...in less than 5 days...unbelievable. What are you? Who are you? Michael Jordan in 4th quarter? Who can do that?...especially we are talking about purchasing aircraft. I still can't wrap my head around what happened right now.. We were in a terrible situation only 5 days ago, Roger turned the situation around in less than 24 hours. Then, now we are in the best hands...on top of that, previous owner (Bill) is a such a nice person to talk to & work with... P.S. - my agent who tried to sell the other CTSW told me "Roger is too picky"...What? Are you out of your mind? It's our lives at stake! Roger is the only one who looked after our interest for the entire time. THANK YOU SIR! - sorry I am still stuck on MJ since we are from Chicago... Agree with everything you said.
Tom Baker Posted August 9, 2013 Report Posted August 9, 2013 I'm glad you are getting things sorted out.
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