cdarza Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Recommendations please for best way to camera mount (Interior) that minimizes shake. Many advances have been made but im still left with not so smooth video. @FlyingMonkey i think this question is really for you as ive noticed your videos are buttery smooth. (I tried sending you a direct message but it wouldnt allow me to- hence this topic) Since the CTSW has that minor little stick 'bump' ive also now noticed that alot of my videos have that little shake or shudder. Very minor but videos today are so smooth im trying to get the best footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 The trick is to get a camera with image stabilization to cancel out the vibrations. If I turn off the image stabilization on mine it's pretty shaky. Most of the new "action cameras" from GoPro, Garmin, etc have very good image stabilization. Most of my videos are taken from an adhesive GoPro mount I have stuck to the bulkhead between the seats. it's been there since I bought the airplane six years ago and is still on there pretty solidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdarza Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 thanks for the reply. Yeah I've used the image stabilization and didn't really help much. I thought you might have some special mount but I also have the gopro adhesive mount that you mentioned. I haven't really noticed it much but lately Im starting to think now that my plane has a slight shudder that most of you don't have. Sample of my videos. Either camera not doing a good job or I gotta figure out how to get less plane shudder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmi Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 I don't think camera stabilization matters for high frequency vibrations: Here is an example of a video I recorded with Garmin Virb about 3 years ago ( no stabilization) Here is another one ( on the same plane ) with GoPro 7 ( awesome gimbal-like stabilization ) - you can clearly see difference with actual horizon being rock stable but in both cases there are no high frequency vibrations. Imho you got something else going with your mount or perhaps excessive plane vibrations ( I doubt it thought since you with this level of vibration on the engine itself you would probably end up being a close friend with a lot of dentists ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmi Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 You know what .. let me take it back. I just reviewed some video from another camera Sony FDR-X3000 mounted on the same mount as GoPro and Virb. Sony is actually a very good camera but it does not have stabilization whatsoever and it actually shows big time - video looks similar to what you have recorded ( perhaps even worse) It looks like Virb does have some internal stabilization ( not nearly as good as GoPro )but it does make difference so perhaps you should just get a better camera with stabilization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Be aware, if you have an older camera with image stabilization, it's not going to be good. My Gopro Hero 3 was marginal, my newer Hero 7 has outstanding stabilization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdarza Posted November 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Thanks for those samples. Yeah the first 2 vids - Gopro7 and virb were awesome! The one i posted is from a Yi camera (which clearly is not doing a good job). I found some old footage from my Gopro4 and it too wasnt 100% stable. I have a insta360 arriving soon so will see how that does. Really appreciate the feedback - my OC took over and ive been obsessing about this the last few days lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 10 hours ago, cdarza said: Thanks for those samples. Yeah the first 2 vids - Gopro7 and virb were awesome! The one i posted is from a Yi camera (which clearly is not doing a good job). I found some old footage from my Gopro4 and it too wasnt 100% stable. I have a insta360 arriving soon so will see how that does. Really appreciate the feedback - my OC took over and ive been obsessing about this the last few days lol. I think the newer camera might fix you up. I keep wanting to try my GoPro 7 on the tail, where the vibration was just too much for the GoPro 3 to get a good image. BTW, I think GoPro has terrible customer service and a bad history of just releasing new cameras and not fixing issues with current models. I will probably look for another option next time I am camera shopping...maybe the Garmin ViRB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdarza Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 So i splurged on a new 360 action cam. Insta 360 R. So far on my first edited video i am quite pleased with the quality and the stabilization. Camera was mounted on the provided stick and the camera was bouncing ALOT, as can be seen on the close up wing shots, yet still managed to give very good video for the distant view. I will opt for a stiff aluminum tube in the future as opposed to the provided retractable stick. Note on the Insta360 in case anyone wanting to buy one; the bad; Battery life 1 hour max Need a Iphone 8 or better to edit the videos on your phone (or equivalent Android) While editing, the camera connection to phone kept freezing up/crashing. Other than that im still happy with the camera and amazing features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Great video. Beautiful scenery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Koerner Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Wow! Nice video of a very pretty area. Super clear water and completely glassed off (no waves). I assume we are looking at the inland side of coral reefs? What about the platforms in the water just before the 5-min mark? Are they fishing platforms? Mike Koerner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdarza Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Mike Koerner said: Wow! Nice video of a very pretty area. Super clear water and completely glassed off (no waves). I assume we are looking at the inland side of coral reefs? What about the platforms in the water just before the 5-min mark? Are they fishing platforms? Mike Koerner Thank you Mike. It was one of those awesome glassy days. This place is Danajon Reef (Bank) in the Philippines- Part of a double barrier reef. The platforms are for the fishermen who are actually doing seaweed farming which is being promoted by the local govt units as opposed to the Dynamite fishing that they used to do - although, we still see or hear the explosions but rarely these days. Around the 4:12 mark, there is a tiny crowded 'islet' that we locally refer to as Waterworld. Local fisherfolk have made a community mainly on stilts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 Great Video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmi Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 That’s some high quality video ... I am still holding off with purchasing any of these 360 cameras due to combination of relatively high price and also issues with fisheye effect ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Koerner Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 I need bigger gas tanks... much bigger. Mike Koerner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 How and where did you mount this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdarza Posted September 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Ken said: How and where did you mount this? HI Ken. I used the telescopic "selfie stick" and attached it to a suction cup mount for the front part and then attached it to the tie down bolt at the back. The back is a washer with a bolt attached to the ring of the tie down bolt. I used a InstaOne camera for this however i was having problems with it shutting down on me - Good camera but not sure i would recommend it. The software it comes with for editing is easy to use but you need a newer phone to edit smoothly (iphone 8 was not good... iphone 11 or better should be fine) If you need more detail just lemme know and i will try to help as best i can chris@hlhuillier.com Note; i used it a few times and after awhile, unless you are really into editing and posting, it just becomes a hassle. - But thats just me. I just use the iphone vid now for most of my content; shameless plugin: follow me on insta if you like; captazrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 cdarza, you were complaining about battery life. If your camera can use a USB source for charging, you can coil a long USB cable around your selfie stick, and drill a small hole in your clear inspection cover. Use a piece of adhesive velcro and attach an external battery pack inside the wing. Then run the usb cable through the hole and connect to your battery. When the camera is not in use use a small piece of tape over the hole. I do this for my GoPro 7 (using a shorter USB cable than you will need), and I get 8+ hours of battery life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/20/2021 at 9:43 PM, cdarza said: HI Ken. I used the telescopic "selfie stick" and attached it to a suction cup mount for the front part and then attached it to the tie down bolt at the back. The back is a washer with a bolt attached to the ring of the tie down bolt. I used a InstaOne camera for this however i was having problems with it shutting down on me - Good camera but not sure i would recommend it. The software it comes with for editing is easy to use but you need a newer phone to edit smoothly (iphone 8 was not good... iphone 11 or better should be fine) If you need more detail just lemme know and i will try to help as best i can chris@hlhuillier.com Note; i used it a few times and after awhile, unless you are really into editing and posting, it just becomes a hassle. - But thats just me. I just use the iphone vid now for most of my content; shameless plugin: follow me on insta if you like; captazrad Thanks for the photo and info. I have heard much the same about the Insta cameras and the hassle editing. So you hang your iPhone out there now? I wonder how the Go Pro 360 woul;d work?I don't do Instagram or I would certainly follow you. Thanks, Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassStripFlyBoy Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Ken said: I wonder how the Go Pro 360 I use Go Pro 360, fairly happy with it. Any 360 camera requires a stout PC to process the files, and editing 360 files is much more intense than basic FOV cameras. Go Pro uses their Fusion software, or there are other video software editing available as freeware / purchased software. Tips and tricks can be found for the specific camera, and the specific software, on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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