Warmi Posted November 13, 2021 Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, Roger Lee said: Perma Cool thermostat. I'm not a fan of the oil and coolant thermostats. They're just in the way for the little they do. Wasn’t the failed pluming for one of these thermostats that recently brought down a CTLS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted November 13, 2021 Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 It wasn't the thermostat itself, but the hose attachments to it. I did have one fail here in Tucson on an LS and temps shot way up. I just replaced the internal parts and reused the outside housing. Been good ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted November 13, 2021 Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 I think that this is it. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/prm-1070 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Is there any real benefit to using a thermostat instead of tape, or is it just added complexity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 When you're in an area that can swing from freezing temperatures to mild day overnight, its nice not ro have to mess with tape. If you fly long distances frequently, also excellent. What sucks is the fact that oil has to be drawn through it, it's not pumped through. That really limits options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 10:07 AM, FlyingMonkey said: Is there any real benefit to using a thermostat instead of tape, or is it just added complexity? Some CTs have marginal cooling. They will run cooler in the hot weather without the thermostat and make tape a better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Ed Cesnalis said: Some CTs have marginal cooling. They will run cooler in the hot weather without the thermostat and make tape a better option. I think there are two variants of the oil radiators out there? I can't remember. Mine was having overheating problems this past summer. Had to take an "siphon spray air gun" and blow the fins out with mineral spirits. I CANNOT BELIEVE THE LEVEL OF FILTH THAT WAS LODGED IN IT! Chunks of old dirt were just getting blasted out. Followed up with isopropyl to remove residue (there is no such thing as residue-less mineral spirits no matter what the bottle says). Was a pretty decent difference, but what also helped was filling the oil more towards the max side of the dipstick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, WmInce said: Major thread drift here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 16 hours ago, Anticept said: I think there are two variants of the oil radiators out there? I can't remember. Mine was having overheating problems this past summer. Had to take an "siphon spray air gun" and blow the fins out with mineral spirits. I CANNOT BELIEVE THE LEVEL OF FILTH THAT WAS LODGED IN IT! Chunks of old dirt were just getting blasted out. Followed up with isopropyl to remove residue (there is no such thing as residue-less mineral spirits no matter what the bottle says). Was a pretty decent difference, but what also helped was filling the oil more towards the max side of the dipstick. I think Ed Cesnalis had his oil cooler chemically flushed out once to remove any deposits and muck inside. I can't remember if it made a huge difference, but if you're still having trouble after an external cleaning, it might be something to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 Back to the original thread topic, I think the G3X system is pretty spectacular, and it's more than all you'd need to fly the F2 as designed. If you really want it for an IFR trainer or want to shoot approaches you could upgrade to the 650...but you'd better be doing that a lot to justify the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 You get back 1/3rd of the price at best of what you invest in avionics when you sell an airplane. Even still, will that make it worth it to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, FlyingMonkey said: I think Ed Cesnalis had his oil cooler chemically flushed out once to remove any deposits and muck inside. I can't remember if it made a huge difference, but if you're still having trouble after an external cleaning, it might be something to consider. I know. It's in the list of things to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, FlyingMonkey said: I think Ed Cesnalis had his oil cooler chemically flushed out once to remove any deposits and muck inside. I can't remember if it made a huge difference, but if you're still having trouble after an external cleaning, it might be something to consider. That was with his old airplane and the Warp Drive propeller. I have a customer with a Warp Drive prop, and theirs runs warm too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, Tom Baker said: That was with his old airplane and the Warp Drive propeller. I have a customer with a Warp Drive prop, and theirs runs warm too. The current owner finally changed the engine to normalize oil temps and even that didn't work. I never considered the Warp Drive because the condition didn't exist in the first year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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