Trim during pattern

[Tom Baker]

I guess tight is relative, because I wouldn't call the power off patterns I fly in a CT tight.

[Anticept]

They will definitely come down though if you use flaps early on and keep a high airspeed at idle. Even still, I find that compared to a lot of other GA aircraft, it hangs a lot longer.

[Ed Cesnalis]

2 hours ago, Tom Baker said:

I guess tight is relative, because I wouldn't call the power off patterns I fly in a CT tight.

I agree so in most conditions I arrive abeam with flap speed and chop the power and deploy flaps on downwind / abeam.

At 40 degrees I want close to calm winds and with speed under 50kts the pattern is tight without a slip.

At 30 degrees and 55kts its still kinda tight.  I often slip too.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

I agree tight is relative.  We're really tight compared to a King Air. 

I guess it depends on how you fly the pattern too.  I'm power off abeam the numbers and flaps in as soon as the speed is Vs0, so I'm descending the whole way from abeam the numbers to touch down, most of the time at 52kt or less.  I am probably lower on the turn to final than some.

[Anticept]

King airs have better glide ratios than we do.

GA aircraft in general tend to have lower glide ratios than larger aircraft.

[207WF]

A trim stall in my CTSW was the most extreme thing I have done.   Trim full nose up, flaps -6, less than manuvering speed, then full power and let go of the stick.

You will think you pointed straight up when it stalls.

In fact, this is so crazy I will not recommend it.

WF

[Anticept]

You have to do a full power, full flaps stall for AoA calibration on the D100 EMS. It's no joke, you have to pitch over 30 degrees.