NC Bill Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I bought a GoPro2 HD camera and suction cup mount this week. Anybody find the GoPro suction cup mount satisfactory for filming outside the cockpit? Appreciate if someone could also tell me what resolution is best for videos taken from outside on the vertical stab. I tried it yesterday at 1080p. I learned you are advised to place the camera high and forward on the tail to avoid filming the tail itself. :blush: Also my video was a bit shaky. Not sure if it's just the nature of the mount or I didn't screw it down well enough. Tomorrow I'd like to try inside the cockpit. Where should I attach the camera on the CTLS and what resolution works best? Any other tips? This is fun stuff TIA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 This fellow has put together 3 videos, on selecting a camera, mounting it and editing the videos. Here's the one on mounting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6BsnmKB5jA&feature=plcp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Bill Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 His YouTube videos are what encouraged me to get involved Eddie. Unfortunately for him he flys a Sting and recommends RAM mounts. I'm wondering if anyone here has had good experience with the GoPro suction mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentuckynet Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I have the exact same cam and mounted it under my wing and flew from kentucky to the bahamas and back through rain etc. I think the mount is "still under there" videos were excellent! Great video camera and mount! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Also here... a couple of mounts... works for GoPro, too. http://ctflier.com/index.php?/topic/89-new-cockpit-camera/page__p__4066#entry4066 Also, take a look at the stuff from C Icey and JosJonkers http://ctflier.com/index.php?/topic/1519-the-essential-kootenay-flying-primer/page__pid__11750#entry11750 tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Bill Posted August 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I failed to get interior shots with the GoPro HD camera.. Seems the interior surfaces on my CTLS are rough, grainy, call it sand-papery. Don't know if that's true of the SWs or other LSs but it is on mine. And neither a RAM nor GoPro suction mount sticks. At least not on the back wall or on the ceiling. I affix the mounts and they promptly fall down in 1 to 5 seconds. I'm guessing the grainy surface doesn't permit the suction cup to adhere sufficiently. BTW the GoPro works fine affixed to the tail and under the wing. I've test flown in both locations. Quetions: 1- Is my plane's interior finish unique? 2- If not, how have others solved the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Hi, For internal suction mounts try this. Cut out a circle of plexiglass and epoxy to mushroom, rear wall or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Good idea Mick, Bill, check the mount out near the bottom of post #5... Made it because if the texture problem. The mount can be removed, with only the Velcro-like stuff remaining... And even the stickem stuff comes out with the pull of one tab. Tim Ps. Every CT I've seen has that same, rough, spattered finish. I think it's zolatone. That's what I used to paint the mount bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Good idea Mick, Bill, check the mount out near the bottom of post #5... Made it because if the texture problem. The mount can be removed, with only the Velcro-like stuff remaining... And even the stickem stuff comes out with the pull of one tab. Tim Ps. Every CT I've seen has that same, rough, spattered finish. I think it's zolatone. That's what I used to paint the mount bracket. Would there be anything in the 3M Command strips line that might work? Stick it to the surface, and then pull the tab to remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Would there be anything in the 3M Command strips line that might work? Stick it to the surface, and then pull the tab to remove. Hi Tom, That's just what I was talking about... 'couldn't remember the name, but knew it has a tab. I used the ones meant for pictures. They are a bit more heavy-duty, and kinda "snap" in place. I've also used those to put a post-it holder, pen, and map-holders, on the cross-member above your head. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 I bought a piece of plexi glass (1/4" thick because suction cup mounts quickly warp anything smaller). I used the 3M double stick tape that is heavier duty and used that to fasten the gray plexi cut to 4x6" to the back wall of my plane (on the CTSW) and to the column on my new CTLS. I then use the suction cup mount to put the camera on. You can see it in the pic attached between the seats up high. I found that with a smaller piece (say 4" x 4") that the suction cup mount put too much stress on the plexi and would cause it to pull the plexi off the plane. On 1/8" plexi it would warp the plastic. So 4"x6", 1/4" thick was used and it has never come off due to the suction applied by the mount. One thing to note... I have both a GoPro and an NFlight Cam Plus. For interior looking out through the front windshield the NFlight Cam Plus works much better. This is because the "Plus" version removes the ugly prop hash and gives a clear view. My GoPro records the prop hash and I then have to explain to people who watch and are not pilots that when you are in the plane you don't see the prop. I intend to use my Go Pro for exterior shots not taken through the prop! The NFlight Cam also has a built in cable to record cockpit audio thus adding that feature as well. (Yes its more expensive). Here is a video example shot from the CTLS looking out of the cockpit (no prop hash). This was not shot in full 1080HD, I shot it in 720P Here is an example shot that has prop hash Prop hash bugs me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Bill Posted September 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Very helpful Adam. Thanks. BTW where did you get the sheepskin seat covers? Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 The sheepskin seat covers are made to fit a Mercedes Benz. They are a Mercedes Benz sold accessory and cost 200.00 for a set on ebay. I use a 3M velcro strap to gather them at the top of the seats and then use the built in little elastic strap to hold them in the middle. For the bottom I just roll them over the front of the seat and tuck the extra underneath. I also temporarily removed the bottom of my leather seat covers and added 1" of memory foam. It's a tight fit to get the covers back on but between the memory foam and the sheepskin my seats are pretty comfy for longer flights! An example of an ebay listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/MBZ-Factory-Sheepskin-Seat-Covers-Inserts-E-S-Class-Tan-Gray-color-/260947014671?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item3cc1a7740f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 I've found that a 10% neutral density filter from stuntcams ($13 web or ebay) seems to have eliminated most of my prop problems with the GoPro Hero2. Depending on the lighting (cloudy,bright, into sun, etc), it will eliminate the prop almost totally. At worst, you'll see a blur, but never those crazy-shaped props, or the backwards spinning prop. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Thanks for the tip Tim... I HATE PROP HASH! If I can make it go away with the GoPro for $13 than I'm on board! I ordered one on ebay! For anyone that doesn't want to look, here is a link to the auction. http://www.ebay.com/itm/130493740254?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Meade Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Tim, I see the filter you recommend is polarized. Is that an issue with photos of any of the digital displays or does it affect any images in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I don't think polarization does anything special with digital. I've read that the filter works by simply limiting the light a bit, therefore causing the shutter to shoot a little slower, so it doesn't freeze the prop. If these action cams were more sophisticated, you could adjust shutter speed. Polarization does seem to help most aviation shots, with more dramatic sky/cloud effects. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Hmm...hadn't thought about that before. Do digitals have shutters? And, unless they are SLR don't they measure the light outside the lens? Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 here's some info. with visuals... http://dvxuser.com/jason/CMOS-CCD/ 'Pretty sure there is no external light metering, it's just read from the image. tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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