Runtoeat Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 I posted a video a couple years ago of landing at this field near New Philadelphia, Ohio. This video was taken today 10/16/12 and the Fall colors were at their peak. The tree tops looked a lot closer in real life than the video shows. One can either make a straight in by coming over the hill to the right and then try to get down to the runway or come in as is done in the video with a chop of power and hard left with a slip thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Dang, they looked plenty close in the video :blink: 'Certainly a test of skill for getting our light floaters down quickly. tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtoeat Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 This is a situation where there aren't any pros or cons about using full flaps. Starting with careful attention to low air speed going in and full flaps with a slip is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdeurloo Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 This is a situation where there aren't any pros or cons about using full flaps. Starting with careful attention to low air speed going in and full flaps with a slip is required. I knew there was a reason they put flaps on our cts. Thanks for the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Nice video, thanks. Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Looks like a challenging, fun field to get in to! As for getting out, is there any problem with clearing that mountain on takeoff? Do you have to make an immediate right turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtoeat Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Hi Andy. This trip was a good learning opportunity for me. One option leaving is to head South (opposite direction from landing) and make a left turn before the rising terain, go up a valley which opens and allows one to make a rising spiraling 360 to gain enough altitude to get over the rising terain. The other option is to go direct South over the hill which is what we did with the CTLS. This route didn't leave much margin between us and the trees and we had a slight wind coming at us. It was a cool day and we had the wind helping us. If we had a tail wind on departure and if the day was warm, I don't think we would have made it over the terain. This was an education for me because I'm a flatlander and don't have much experience with getting over obsticales. What appeared to me to be a sure thing of getting over the terain on departure really wasn't what it appeared to be. Lesson here is to always know distances needed to clear the obsticals on hand with the density altitude and wind direction at the time. AND, if possible, have an alternate "Plan B" (left turn up the valley) if one doesn't do "Plan A" correctly! Regarding "Plan B", another thing learned is to take the time to overfly the landing site prior to landing. Take time to observe the terrain and know what features offer routes for a departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtoeat Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Ran across these videos today. I've seen them before but forgot about it. Others may have also seen these but these go along with this discussion of departing an unfamiliar (or familiar) airport withou paying attention to density altitude and obsticales. The guy in the first video is a very lucky pilot! The guy in the 2nd video wasn't so lucky but probably walked away. http://biggeekdad.co...nsity-altitude/ http://biggeekdaddy..../BushPlane.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Doesn't look like the first one was using any flaps?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtoeat Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Hi Doug. Might have been a Champ which doesn't have flaps? I'm always amazed how skilled the pilots were who flew these old aircraft. Many airplanes had low power (65hp?) and maybe a radio and some didn't have flaps or trim. This plane really didn't appear to have much lift. Might have been a combination of low power, overloading, tailwind, hot day (NO FLAPS)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josjonkers Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Ran across these videos today. I've seen them before but forgot about it. Others may have also seen these but these go along with this discussion of departing an unfamiliar (or familiar) airport withou paying attention to density altitude and obsticales. The guy in the first video is a very lucky pilot! The guy in the 2nd video wasn't so lucky but probably walked away. http://biggeekdad.co...nsity-altitude/ http://biggeekdaddy..../BushPlane.html Not sure if the accident in the 2nd video was coaused by density altitude or obstacles since he had a wide open lake in fron of him. My thoughts are he knew his buddy was filming and decided to put on a "good" show.... He certainly succeeded, but I would not categorize this one as an obstacle but rather plain stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtoeat Posted October 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Hi Josjonkers. Definitely no obsitcales in the 2nd video but it sure was a case of of poor planning. I'd like to understand why this accident happened. Maybe something to learn from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying C Farms Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Anytime you want to come into my grass strip you are welcome.6KY3 Not much of a challenge unless landing on 19. 2200 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtoeat Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Fling C, thanks for the offer. Might be going thru your area some day and it's good to know I'm welcome. Info says Flying C Farms strip is about 9 miles North of of Shelbyville but couldn't find you on the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying C Farms Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Info says Flying C Farms strip is about 9 miles North of of Shelbyville but couldn't find you on the charts. Right under the 2 in the contact approach box on the chart. One mile north of Rooster field. (40KY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtoeat Posted October 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Flying C, Rooster Field is a good landmark that should show up on the charts. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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