Jim Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Ever seen a well kept staggerwing? My hanger neighbor owns one. It's one of the most gorgeous works of engineering I've ever seen. The aircraft equivalent of a fine voluptuous woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 "There are 50 and 60 year old planes more airworthy than some new ones" <- name one. Any flying P-51 Mustang. Those airplanes are so valuable now they are all treated like museum pieces. Anybody not willing to do so ends up selling to somebody that does. Same is true for many vintage warbirds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 if a NEW aircraft were to roll off the line with the SLIGHTEST deviation from its airworthyness certificate it would NOT be released to fly. You have clearly never been to an aircraft factory. I'd wager EVERY factory new airplane has defects, even yours. Remember your brakes leaking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmInce Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 . . . "the old tin ones can be maintained in a manner that keeps them airworthy." . . . Quite right. And some of them are a lot more esthetic than Flight Design airplanes also. When I first sat in and flew a CT, my first thought was, "what kind of a contraption is this?" It reminded me of sitting at the controls of a small helicopter . . . except the "collective" stick was missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 An airplane being airworthy is like a girl being pregnant. It is airworthy, or it isn't, there is no such thing as more airworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmInce Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 . . . "if a NEW aircraft were to roll off the line with the SLIGHTEST deviation from its airworthyness certificate it would NOT be released to fly. And a NEW aircraft is NEW, no remachined parts, no 'good enough' older parts, no flight stresses on the airframe, no microcracks in the wings, no unseen stresses and strains on the landing gear, no time withstanding the vibration of the engine etc." . . . There you go again . . . spouting off and not knowing what you are talking about. You need to get a better grip. Here's a little reading assignment for you. Read up on the "BOAC de Havilland Comet." New aircraft, in commercial service and released with all the blessings, but was not airworthy. It took a couple of catastrophic crashes and a tedious, thorough investigation before they found the "defect." And it was major. They stopped producing the aircraft. Point being, your post was not accurate. Do your research before posting your assertions. Your track record is pretty dismal here . . . and elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 There you go again . . . spouting off and not knowing what you are talking about. You need to get a better grip. Here's a little reading assignment for you. Read up on the "BOAC de Havilland Comet." New aircraft, in commercial service and released with all the blessings, but was not airworthy. It took a couple of catastrophic crashes and a tedious, thorough investigation before they found the "defect." And it was major. They stopped producing the aircraft. Point being, your post was not accurate. Do your research before posting your assertions. Your track record is pretty dismal here . . . and elsewhere. Well said. Even the spectacularly successful B727 had three hull losses in the first 6 months of operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 An airplane being airworthy is like a girl being pregnant. Makes me chuckle. I've had people tell me my plane looks pregnant. I end up saying i wish she was, cause that means I would have two CTs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Then there was the Constellation. The airplane that led to the discovery of explosive decompression at altitude because of its original design with square cornered windows. A beautiful airliner too bad the design failure end up killing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Take a look at my Challenger II LSS CW. Took me 20 months to build and is perfect condition. One owner (me) never any damage, 80-85 cruise. 30K to build and selling for 15,900. AWC 9-9-2009. It's in the planes for sale section on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityKnight Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 How about a Kitfox? Proven, affordable, great looking (depends on your taste obviously)... I wouldn't say they lead the pack in any one area, but they seem to be very well rounded and offer a lot of airplane for the money. Few different styles/models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I would vote Kitfox too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Kitfoxes are pretty well built. Their lineage can be traced back to the cubs and taylorcrafts. You can have a look at the eurofox (now known as aerotrek) if you want prebuilt. There is one in my area, for the price they are pretty damn well built, and the attention to detail (even the welds!) is great. http://www.aerotrek.aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 A buddy of mine has an Avid, the precursor to the Kitfox. Has a few quirks, but a great little airplane. Surprising amount of climb even with two people aboard on 65hp (he has a Rotax 582 installed), cruises about 80mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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