coppercity Posted September 2, 2010 Report Posted September 2, 2010 August 31 — Pilots authorized by air traffic controllers to taxi onto runways and await takeoff clearance will be instructed to “line up and wait” rather than “position and hold” beginning on September 30 under new terminology adopted by the Federal Aviation Administration. The new terminology, which was recommended by the National Transportation Safety Board, conforms to terminology used internationally under International Civil Aviation Organization guidelines. A safety analysis conducted by the FAA’s Air Traffic Organization Terminal Services determined that adopting the phrase “line up and wait” will eliminate confusion, particularly among pilots who also fly overseas, and further reduce the risk of runway incursions. Beginning September 30, controllers will state the aircraft’s call sign, state the departure runway and then instruct pilots to “line up and wait,” i.e., “United 451, Runway 33L, line up and wait.” The phrase, “traffic holding in position” will continue to be used to advise other aircraft that traffic has been authorized to line up and wait on an active runway. The FAA will continue to emphasize that pilots are not permitted to cross any runway encountered while taxiing without explicit instructions from controllers.
207WF Posted September 2, 2010 Report Posted September 2, 2010 Wow, that is going to cause some confusion. Line up and wait sounds more like "hold short" in the queue to me, as in not on the runway. WF
Magnet Posted September 2, 2010 Report Posted September 2, 2010 Not a problem, that's what I was told in the Army all the time.
airhound Posted September 2, 2010 Report Posted September 2, 2010 Very good Trooper Magnet.....or was it 'Hurry Up and Wait' Oh and 'Lets Do A 360 And GET THE HECK OUTTA HERE'
coppercity Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Posted September 2, 2010 What kinda training is that?? ARMY Training Sir!
CT4ME Posted September 3, 2010 Report Posted September 3, 2010 'can't wait for the hip hop rapper generation to get in control.... "4 Charlie Tango - go ahead 'n busta move on 25Ralph, incoming traffic - no chillin, please." Tim
N89WD Posted September 4, 2010 Report Posted September 4, 2010 I first heard the term in Grand Cayman on my way to Jamaica in my CT this March. Interesting the US is the only country that uses "taxi into position and hold". I actually told the UK accented controller I was not fimiliar with the term "line up and wait", very nicely he repiled "the pilots from the US are the only ones that have trouble with that one" and had me taxi into position and hold. At least I could understand him clearly......the Mexican controllers...that was a different story
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