Flying Bozo Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 For Sale new Matco Master Cylinder.I bought it to put on my CT to make the brakes better and when I took the panel cover off to install it I saw that someone had already installed a Matco Master Cylinder. I paid $124.19 for it plus shipping. I will sell it for $100 including shipping (US Shipping) or BO. Thanks Larry Minch 408-821-6902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloSerra Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 Hi, Are the cylinders still available and would you ship it to Brazil? In case you are interested can you please post some photos to make sure it will fit in my CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted July 31, 2014 Report Share Posted July 31, 2014 If you have a CT the Matco master cylinder part number MCMC4CT will fit. I had Matco set this up so it was a direct replacement for fittings and had them turn the shaft down to better fit the brake control rod tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloSerra Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Thanks, Roger, but I am not sure about what I have. I believe it is a CT2k but it seems it has some differences from what I see in the manuals, including the brake system. The calipers and pads are mounted around the wheels axe and are about the size of the brake disks (they cover the full circle, not only one sector). The master cylinders are mounted vertically and connected to the brakes levers by cables, so I do not see a brake control rod tube. My aircraft (model 2002) has serial number FD1302 and was mounted in Brazil by a company (Flyer) which does not represent Flight Design anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 A 2002 FD is probably different. I didn't know we were talking back that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Thanks, Roger, but I am not sure about what I have. I believe it is a CT2k but it seems it has some differences from what I see in the manuals, including the brake system. The calipers and pads are mounted around the wheels axe and are about the size of the brake disks (they cover the full circle, not only one sector). The master cylinders are mounted vertically and connected to the brakes levers by cables, so I do not see a brake control rod tube. My aircraft (model 2002) has serial number FD1302 and was mounted in Brazil by a company (Flyer) which does not represent Flight Design anymore. There are also possible alterations to consider too. The aircraft logs, if kept up, might shed some light on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloSerra Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 In case you are curious or willing to help, I have included some pictures of the brake system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 I have not seen those brakes before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Bozo Posted August 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 It looks like you have differential braking in that plane. I can see 2 master cylinders in there and neither of them look like the Matco one that I have for sale. The whole braking system looks way different than mine. Sorry about that. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 It does look like the Matco's are retrofit-able. Both calipers and master cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloSerra Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Yes, I have independent brakes for each wheel and agree that it is likely to be retrofit able, but I am not sure if it is worth doing it. I will live with that for the moment. I am happy with my plane but there are few things I would like to improve, including the brake system and the flaps control (mine is the only CT-family I have seen without electrical flaps), but things are more complicated living in Brazil. Heavy import taxes, long delivery times and scarce availability of parts in the country makes every modification much more challenging. Thanks for keeping this blog, I learn a lot from the contributions of everyone and the wise advices from Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Whoa, those brakes. Those things must be expensive! I've never seen that type of hydraulic disc braking system outside of airliner's multiple-stacked brakes. Are the liners at least riveted on? I can't even imagine how much the pads would cost to replace if it's all one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloSerra Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 The pads are one piece and the liners are not riveted on. They could be expensive if I could find a part number and look for new ones but what I'll do is to have the liners replaced (glued) over the metal base of the old ones (work done by specialized brake maintenance shops). I could ask them to make it riveted but I prefer the glue to avoid the rivets touching the disks when the liners are close to end of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Rivet's won't contact the disc if you have wear notches cut in and check them when you fly. However, having the liners epoxied on means you get more liner to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloSerra Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 In any case, it is good practice to check the pads wear before flight, even if they are glued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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