CT4ME Posted May 30, 2014 Report Posted May 30, 2014 The wacky lawsuit brought against FD by Daniel Bernath is OVER. Not only did he request a dismissal (with the ability for it to be filed again), but the courts dismissed the suit (not allowing it to be filed again). This was a horrible experience for all, and a big waste of time and $$$. "No man is completely useless; he can always serve as a bad example." Our lesson: don't forget we have dual gravity-fed fuel tanks. The feeds will never be exactly even. If one side gets very low... land the plane. Never take off with very low fuel. I can't wait to see the final accident report. Tim
CT4ME Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Posted June 9, 2014 Speaking of forced landings... Sport Aviation (june 2014) has a good article about fuel issues that have led to off-field landings. I was surprised to learn that the Cessna 210 doesn't allow slips of more than 30 seconds while landing with less than 1/2 tank! The unporting of fuel can cause fuel starvation. Tim
mooneyman Posted September 14, 2014 Report Posted September 14, 2014 To the fuel starvation issue, I believe there must be an underlying problem with the CTSW Fuel System. I have personally experienced loss of power with fuel in both tanks. The last event happened Just today after filling the CT. What I observed was a loss of engine power at Full Climb Power. Fuel pressure went to -1.6 psi The engine was stumbling. I reduced power to 4800 RPM and the engine and fuel pressures / flow slowly returned to normal. The previous Events occurred in flight with greater than 8 Gallons per side. I am new to the CTSW and wonder if this is understood to be an issue in the community?
Anticept Posted September 14, 2014 Report Posted September 14, 2014 mooneyman: We found debris in our fuel system in the Y, and lost engine power three times in flight on my CTLS one day. We had been seeing some periodic fuel PSI issues, and were already chasing the issue down when that occurred. In addition, the fuel pumps have an internal screen that cannot be cleaned; it requires the pump to be replaced. Be sure you have eliminated fuel issues and all screens are clean before thinking about the aircraft fuel system design itself having a problem. In the maintenance manuals, they have a fuel flow test procedure that is used to identify if there are fuel system problems. A healthy fuel system has no problem passing this test.
Jim Meade Posted September 14, 2014 Report Posted September 14, 2014 Speaking of forced landings... Sport Aviation (june 2014) has a good article about fuel issues that have led to off-field landings. I was surprised to learn that the Cessna 210 doesn't allow slips of more than 30 seconds while landing with less than 1/2 tank! The unporting of fuel can cause fuel starvation. Tim Where did you see this? I flew a T210M for over a year - more than 200 hours on it - and have a C210M manual at hand. Neither one has this limitation in them. I was checked out by an expert 210 owner-flyer of many years who has been in most 210 models and he said nothing like this. Maybe some other model of 210?
Ed Cesnalis Posted September 14, 2014 Report Posted September 14, 2014 To the fuel starvation issue,... Adding to this thread regarding 'the' fuel starvation issue you have done a disservice. Look in your carbs for contamination.
CT4ME Posted September 14, 2014 Author Report Posted September 14, 2014 Where did you see this? In the aforementioned issue of Sport Aviation - June 2014. Article about forced landings. Something about an AD requiring a placard about the fuel unporting issue. http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/june_2014#pg82
FastEddieB Posted September 14, 2014 Report Posted September 14, 2014 I've only read about two people doing that. You were one of them. You beat me to it!
Jim Meade Posted September 14, 2014 Report Posted September 14, 2014 In the aforementioned issue of Sport Aviation - June 2014. Article about forced landings. Something about an AD requiring a placard about the fuel unporting issue. http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/june_2014#pg82 That was a 1960 210,the first year built, when they still had struts and were more like a super 182 than the later 210 that I flew. The one I flew did not have this AD or placard. The manual on mine simple said take off and land on the fuller tank (of the two). 210's with aux tanks added may have had other instructions, I can't speak to them.
Jim Meade Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 What is the deal with people using all these different names. What do they have to hide by doing so? It isn't just 100Hamburgers, there are others besides him in this post that have had or use different names on the forum.The thing that disappoints me is when forum administrator personnel who purport to be expert in some field such as maintenance don't use their real name. This forum is one of the worst for trying to obfuscate who is in management. It hurts the credibility of the site. There is too much "believe me because I said so" and too little "here is the specific person or reference, feel welcome to verify the information".
Doug G. Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 This is a free online forum. You don't even have to own or have any flying experience in a FD CT to comment on the CT Flier site! Advise given anonymous or with real name is buyer beware...no implied warranty or workmanship guarantee. Not even a quality assurance check. Here is what I know of 100Hamburgers. He has been flying for a shorter time than I have (I am going on three years), he is not an aircraft mechanic of any sort. (I am an LSRM-A, but far from an expert), he is not any sort of instructor (me either).
Anticept Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 There is too much "believe me because I said so" and too little "here is the specific person or reference, feel welcome to verify the information". This is true. Best practice is if there's no reference, heed it with reservation. I've been guilty of passing off a few "he said she saids" myself . References are hard to come by though, as often said references require you to contact manufacturers, or purchase instruction manuals/videos. The post I had about oil was what I learned from an instructional video provided by AeroShell, and it has to be purchased (i tried finding a youtube copy, but no-go). I'd also argue that often, anecdotes are the precursor to procedure development. We have to watch for consistencies in trouble reports. Don't outright ignore comments made by people, but be careful when they act as an authority!
Admin Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Several of the last posts in this thread have been deleted. They had nothing to do with the topic and had degraded to a series of personal attacks. Please limit your discussions about individuals to Private Messages between yourselves. If you really don't like someone's ideas, then put them on "ignore". The quality of users' posts become evident over time. There is no entrance exam that qualifies people to opine. Learn from the posts, but check the validity to the level that makes you comfortable. It would be nice if every post contained cross-refs and quoted paragraph and page from a manual, but that is not always possible. If you question a post, Google some of the words and see if you can confirm/deny the information elsewhere. Many of you spend a lot of time learning and contributing to this forum. Thank you.
Doug G. Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Personal attacks are the last refuge of cowards. I have not been banned, nor have I engaged in personal attacks like this... You sir, should be taken off the site for this immature and unprofessional commentary.What is personal? And, how is it an attack? I simply said you have had your license for a short time, are not an aircraft mechanic or an instructor. Is any of that not factual?
Doug G. Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 Burgers, I have modified the post to take anything that might be seen as personal out. My apologies. (No, it was not at the request of the admin.) I would, however, request that you refrain from assuming that your way is the only way especially when the situation discussed is not your own.
Doug G. Posted September 15, 2014 Report Posted September 15, 2014 I believe that when a person comments on technical matters, or most others, it is important to know what their expertise is and what qualifies them to make the comment. When you say that I don't understand the situation at my own airport in reference to storing fuel you have absolutely no basis for the comment. I am sorry that you feel your lack of experience is a negative - I see mine as showing the possibilities I have to learn from others. I own a CTLS and have done my own work on it for more than two years with help from people on this forum. That is not a resume, it is a fact. It does however mean that if we talk about specifics about the things on the FD and Rotax inspection checklists the odds are quite high that I will be more familiar with them than you. Experience counts, not just opinion. There are a lot of very experienced people on this forum. You and I are pretty low on the list.
CT4ME Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Posted April 12, 2015 ... What goes around... I know many of you complained, or at least reported, about the letters that DB sent out asking to join in on that crazy lawsuit. It's taken a while, but... http://members.calbar.ca.gov/courtDocs/14-O-00699.pdf
CT4ME Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Posted April 12, 2015 Fixed... thanks 'Batting record not doing well... http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=59001
Runtoeat Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 I consider guys like DB to be "lawsuit terrorists". They throw the "lawsuit bomb" out there and hope it blows up and rains money on them. Glad to see the legal system worked and shut down his bomb making facility. A local FBO here in Michigan was involved with his Flight Design lawsuit and they're breathing easier now.
Doug G. Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 So, my 94 year old mother is blind in one eye, my wife has Parkinson's what kind of idiotic comment do you have for them. You are such a PITA!
Doug G. Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Who took his post down? Admin, if this stands I will assume that political comments are a part of this forum and I am very passionate about a few issues. This person has been the bane of this forum, being coddled by admin while others with intelligent, relevant, comments have been banned. It is enough, he does not belong here!
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