Animosity2k Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Installing my new landing light tonight I noticed the blow tear in the fire sleeve on what I believe is an oil line. It’s near the exhaust. When I put the bottom cowl back on it looks like it gets really close. What’s the best fix for this. I’m guessing I’ve been flying on it like this for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Short of replacing it, I would wrap it with silicone rescue tape, then some fiberglass/foil heat tape to protect it from the exhaust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Another option would be to put a piece of firesleeve around the tear like is on the coolant line on the radiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted December 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tom Baker said: Another option would be to put a piece of firesleeve around the tear like is on the coolant line on the radiator. I’m afraid I’d splice a piece over it with the sliced side on the opposite side and tape it down that it will be to thick and touch the exhaust. How can I space that off of it more? Also what all is involved in replacing it. Is it as easy as disconnecting from the black box on the right side of it, sliding it all off, a new one on and then putting it back together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted December 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tom Baker said: Short of replacing it, I would wrap it with silicone rescue tape, then some fiberglass/foil heat tape to protect it from the exhaust. And what is / where can I find silicone rescue tape? I’m assuming the fiberglass foil tape I can obtain at a hardware store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 He's talking about "self-fusing silicone tape". https://www.rescuetape.com/ is a brand. Make sure you know how to use it. You have to really stretch it as you wrap it on itself for it to self fuse properly, it won't stick very well if you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted December 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Anticept said: He's talking about "self-fusing silicone tape". https://www.rescuetape.com/ is a brand. Make sure you know how to use it. You have to really stretch it as you wrap it on itself for it to self fuse properly, it won't stick very well if you don't. Should any AP be familiar w how to fix this? How hard is it to just remove the fitting and take it off the oil hose and put a new sleeve on? Issues w air getting in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Instructions are usually written on the package. You're basically just repairing the silicone coating and keeping oil and other things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 This is what I found at my 5 year hose change. You may have a damaged oil line under that fire sleeve. You may be able to pull the sleeve back to examine without disconnecting the hose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 The hose and firesleeve would not be hard to change. The issues are the firesleeve should be end dipped, which takes a while to set up, and the oil system should be pressure purged since it was opened up. Plus not all mechanics will have the required tools to clamp the ends. While any A&P could do it, I would look for a Rotax trained mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted December 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tom Baker said: The hose and firesleeve would not be hard to change. The issues are the firesleeve should be end dipped, which takes a while to set up, and the oil system should be pressure purged since it was opened up. Plus not all mechanics will have the required tools to clamp the ends. While any A&P could do it, I would look for a Rotax trained mechanic. Only one around id have to fly to and I’m a bit paranoid to do so with that gash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roger Lee Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 Please excuse the dirty old hands in the video. This hose that I just did last week is in the same place as the original poster's issue. This hose in the video had a second piece of fire sleeve over it and it burned through both layers. Found a second oil hose burned through on the other side. You need at least a 3/4"+ gap to insure the hot exhaust pipe doesn't burn through. In most cases you can loosen the 90 degree fitting nut and rotate it out just a tad which will move the hose away from the hot pipe. If the hose doesn't have enough length to move it outward that inch then it may need to be replaced with one 1" - 2" longer. The fire sleeve hole from the original poster can be repaired and even rotated 180 degrees away from the hot pipe and be repaired and then the burnt side with the repair would be facing outward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted December 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 So I cut the bands, flipped the sleeve, put some hose clamps on and then resealed the bad side facing the prop now with some high temp rtv. Will this suffice a few months until my hose change? IMG_0246.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom Baker Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 You could maybe add a couple tie wraps tying the two hoses together, and gain a little clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 I have wrapped fiberglass matting around hoses before to better shield them from the heat. Also, you may want to consider getting different fittings or tubing to help move the hoses away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoFoxtrot Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Wouldn't this be a good reason to use some header wrap to prevent this from happening again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted December 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, BravoFoxtrot said: Wouldn't this be a good reason to use some header wrap to prevent this from happening again? I plan to do that as soon as my 5 year hose replacement is done at annual in two months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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