markmn Posted June 5, 2011 Report Posted June 5, 2011 Now that the warm weather is here I can easily hit redline. Climbing tonight at olmost 700fpm and still maintaining 5500rpm. Static rpm is still slightly below 5000. The sensenich prop can easily be adjusted for pitch. 120kts was approx 5250 rpm when it was cold. now it takes 5500 to maintain 120. The engine is noticeably nicer and quieter at 5250rpm. thaughts? Mark
markmn Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Posted June 5, 2011 Roger, Just want to be sure, You mean 5500rpm, full throttle strait and level flight? Remember I have the tecnam p2008 if that makes a difference. mark
S4Flier Posted June 5, 2011 Report Posted June 5, 2011 Roger, What altitude for 5500rpm WOT? Typical cruise?
Tad Olmsted Posted June 5, 2011 Report Posted June 5, 2011 Roger, Just want to be sure, You mean 5500rpm, full throttle strait and level flight? Remember I have the tecnam p2008 if that makes a difference. mark You want to be around 4950 on the ground WOT. It's impossible to get it right on the ground, but this is a good benchmark and you won't over rev the engine in flight. Then after your test flight you can fine tune ii and know exactly where you are at to achive straight and level.
markmn Posted June 5, 2011 Author Report Posted June 5, 2011 Roger, Im in minnesota but when i get out there i will stop in. Want you to know i appreciate you always answering so promptly. Flew to reedsberg WI this morning with my three year old son for a fly in breakfast. About 350mn round trip. A great time. Have about 120hrs on the P2008 so far this year. Mark
floats Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 The maximum RPM I ever got from my Rotax 912 is 4920 in level flight with flaps à -12. It was adjusted by a guy who came from FD Ukraine. I am happy with the performance I get (on amphibious floats) but I have been told this is not good for the engine. Should I modify the pitch to get the recommended max RPM
Tad Olmsted Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 The maximum RPM I ever got from my Rotax 912 is 4920 in level flight with flaps à -12. It was adjusted by a guy who came from FD Ukraine. I am happy with the performance I get (on amphibious floats) but I have been told this is not good for the engine. Should I modify the pitch to get the recommended max RPM Yes!!! Ever thought about carbon fiber amphib's? 1430's amphibious complete weighing under 200 pounds. Lets see fiberglass or aluminum do that.
floats Posted August 21, 2011 Report Posted August 21, 2011 Tad ] At $15 000 for floats I do not think of changing to often
floats Posted August 21, 2011 Report Posted August 21, 2011 What means WOT I Googled it but do not see anything related to aviation
floats Posted August 21, 2011 Report Posted August 21, 2011 Thanks. Only ground adjustable propeller WOT in level flight 4920. So needs fixing René
Rogerck Posted November 12, 2011 Report Posted November 12, 2011 I cobbled together a simple tool that easily and accurately measures prop angle. It uses a Igaging digital protractor from Amazon $32. http://www.amazon.com/iGaging-Digital-Magnetic-Level-Protractor/dp/B002LL0BIC/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1321069765&sr=8-11. The measurement results are repeatable within .10 of a degree. Briefly, here is the process: Set the prop blade to be measured to a horizonal position. Create the tool: - Epoxy a spirit level (Harbor Freight, $1) to the top of a wooden block approximately 5x5 inches. - Pick the place on the prop to be measured (about 8 inches from the tip) and holding the block horizontal with the spirit level and behind the prop, mark three points on the front of the block, two above the prop and one below. - Install three nylon spacers with bolts at these points. These will be the guides to slide the device onto each blade in the same position in order to get consistent readings. - Mount a steel angle bracket on the back of the block. Attache the magnetic digital protractor. - Hold the inside edge of the block flush to the back of the prop with a bungee cord. - Take the measurment. Roger Kuhn
Runtoeat Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Roger K., your pitch fixture looks good. Form follows function and many of us have come up with similar fixtures for the same reason you developed yours; to consistently set the pitch. It takes some extra work to make a fixture but next time you need to check your pitch, you'll know that you'll have an accurate measurement.
Adam Posted July 20, 2012 Report Posted July 20, 2012 New CTLS, 25 hours now, Sensenich prop... WOT straight and level with -6 flaps was 5300 RPM. When checking prop pitch it was found that the 3 blades had a variance of 2 full degrees from coarsest blade to flattest blade. Reduced prop coarseness to lowest of the 3 then reset other 2 blades. All 3 blades within 1/10th degree using electronic pitch tool. WOT straight and level with -6 flaps now 5600 RPM. Engine is smoother, climb performance is now 1100 FPM (at sea level) with 15 degrees flaps and 900+ with 0 degrees flaps. Full throttle speed increased about 5 KTS oil temps in climb now cooler too! Prop pitch does have a big impact on performance to be sure. PS, I bought this tool at aircraft spruce for 95.00. Looks like based on the pic from the previous post that there is about a $60.00 premium for the little plastic mount! I like the Amazon price better (oh well...next time!)
Russell Croman Posted July 23, 2012 Report Posted July 23, 2012 Just finished a test flight after prop pitch adjustment... Before: WOT RPM was ~5250 at 6000' DA (more or less my usual cruising altitude). At 5k RPM, I was making ~110kt at -6° flaps with ~5.4 GPH fuel consumption. Coarsest to finest blade was about 0.5° off. Flattened pitch by about 1° and made them all agree to within 0.1°. After: WOT RPM = 5550, 5k RPM at -6° flaps now gives ~115kt and ~5.0 GPH. Takeoff and climb also seem "zippier," although I didn't do any accurate before/after measurements. I'm impressed with the improvement with such a seemingly small change. -Russ
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