Sbailin Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 I put my seat belt on and tighten the waist, then tighten the shoulder harness, the waist belt starts to ride up my chest. Is it supposed to do that? If I don’t tighten the shoulders to keep the waist tight, then the harness falls off my shoulder. What am I missing here? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredG Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Five-point and six-point harnesses (those with an "anti-submarine" strap) do not have the problem you described. My CTsw came with a four-point harness which seems to be what you are describing. Some owners of experimental-registered FD aircraft have installed five point harnesses to deal with that problem - the antisubmarine strap keeps the lap belt from lifting from its proper low location when the shoulder harnesses are snug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Solved the shoulder slipping issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassStripFlyBoy Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Replaced mine with cam lock. A simple option is to adjust everything as you want it, and then slip a webbing strap in to lock the tightness, I didn't search very long, you need something like these pictures, but with slots on the outside so it slips over both straps. The downside is adjusting then becomes a pain, depending on how much clothing you're wearing. I ferried a CT from FDUSA for a new owner, these were on straps from the previous owner, they worked fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procharger Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 I use lock also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tevbax Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 I guess the better question.... any approved aftermarket seatbelts for SLSA through FD? Our seatbelts are past their prime and really need to be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 Talk with Airtime Aviation. I spoke with Flight Design USA several years ago about this, and they were willing to entertain an upgrade to Hooker Harnesses or similar FAA/PMA approved seat belts. They may have an option already approved and available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 The main problem is the cheap, slick webbing which causes slippage on the adjusters. I went to aircraft grade webbing and no longer have the issue. My belts never loosen now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted August 25, 2023 Report Share Posted August 25, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 10:36 PM, Madhatter said: Solved the shoulder slipping issue Where did you get these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Animosity2k said: Where did you get these? Are you asking about the sheepskin covers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 12 hours ago, Madhatter said: Are you asking about the sheepskin covers? Yes, I found your old post. Sadly they are out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Animosity2k said: Yes, I found your old post. Sadly they are out of business. Most companies that made aircraft covers of this type are gone, I'm looking for a supercub front seat cover. There are huge numbers of industries gone that will probably never come back. I have been in the hat business for over 40 years and am one of the very few manufacturers of high grade panama straw hats left as I have recently found out. Aircraft industries are decimated in the US, that's why you see old 172's going for $125,000 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 I had my seats completely redone at an auto repolstry shop. Better padding and leather. They will also make you a custom seat cover. They just need a seat to use to make the cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 My seat covers are 100% 1 inch thick merino sheepskin with no other fabric. Most auto upholstery shops do not use this quality. And yes it makes a difference, I can get automotive sheepskin all day long but it's not the same, been there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Roger Lee said: I had my seats completely redone at an auto repolstry shop. Better padding and leather. They will also make you a custom seat cover. They just need a seat to use to make the cover. I assume this needs an MRA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 12 hours ago, Madhatter said: My seat covers are 100% 1 inch thick merino sheepskin with no other fabric. Most auto upholstery shops do not use this quality. And yes it makes a difference, I can get automotive sheepskin all day long but it's not the same, been there. Did you mail in a seat to get them done/sized? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Animosity2k said: Did you mail in a seat to get them done/sized? These are standard sizes for many types of seats. There is no requirement other than flammability standard on certified. It is only a seat cover and 100% sheepskin is not an issue. As far as LSA I couldn't tell you, but I wouldn't worry about it. Besides if FD doesn't get going on production and make money they will be gone and everyone will end up ELSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/19/2023 at 10:36 PM, Madhatter said: Solved the shoulder slipping issue I like this solution...what belts and sliders are these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 You have to remove the upholstery, add slots for the belts reinforced with a micarta slotted piece attached with epoxy. The existing belts were replaced with better aircraft quality webbing and sliders. It wasn't that hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 27, 2023 Report Share Posted August 27, 2023 I had a custom leather sheepskin coat made for me about 20 years ago, the quality was outstanding. This guy operated out of a large gas station in PennsylvaniaI just call him and he is still in business even on Sunday. He will make aircraft seat covers out of the highest quality very thick sheepskin. His website shows how to measure the seat and his price is much better than any. I will be ordering tomorrow. He said aircraft covers are cheaper than car seats because of the compact size, I was quoted 200 to 250 ballpark. The name is Pat Garrett Sheepskin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warren Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 10:45 PM, tevbax said: I guess the better question.... any approved aftermarket seatbelts for SLSA through FD? Our seatbelts are past their prime and really need to be replaced. I replaced my belts with Crow and love then 100 time better than original belts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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