Animosity2k Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 So I had my seats taken out on my annual, and now whenever I sit in them after adjusting the recline it just goes far back. I spoke to someone here and they suggested they routed the webbing the wrong way when it was reinstalled. I switched directions and it still happens? Do the clamps just go weak over time? Do you guys all just put a knot in? I used a knot on the last flight and it did well on taxi but on takeoff the seat again reclined all the way. I feel silly that I can't solve this! Im thinking since I've routed the webbing both ways maybe the clamp device is just weak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 It's a pita. I'm looking at installing an aircraft quality turnbuckle and cable which would make adjustments easy. You have to add a knot to keep from slipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted August 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 46 minutes ago, Madhatter said: It's a pita. I'm looking at installing an aircraft quality turnbuckle and cable which would make adjustments easy. You have to add a knot to keep from slipping. In my case then maybe two knots as my first one's didn't work ;). Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 On the CTLSi, they used a heavier strap, at least on the ones I have seen. If it is releasing the strap is routed wrong or the buckle is in the wrong position. I have seen them installed where the button on the buckle is being pressed when you sit in the seat. This will release the strap. The buckle has a cam action that it should tighten as the strap is pulled on. If you route it the wrong way through the buckle when you pull on it the cam releases allowing the strap to slip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted August 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom Baker said: On the CTLSi, they used a heavier strap, at least on the ones I have seen. If it is releasing the strap is routed wrong or the buckle is in the wrong position. I have seen them installed where the button on the buckle is being pressed when you sit in the seat. This will release the strap. The buckle has a cam action that it should tighten as the strap is pulled on. If you route it the wrong way through the buckle when you pull on it the cam releases allowing the strap to slip. I do have a CTLSi, and I though that was my issue but I changed the routing. Any chance you can snap a pic next time your around your plane on how yours is routed? Thanks Tom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 49 minutes ago, Animosity2k said: I do have a CTLSi, and I though that was my issue but I changed the routing. Any chance you can snap a pic next time your around your plane on how yours is routed? Thanks Tom! I don't have one to take a picture of. Maybe take a picture of yours and post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted August 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Tom Baker said: I don't have one to take a picture of. Maybe take a picture of yours and post it. That I can do! Ill show you what I'm working with tomorrow and maybe you can straighten me out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
procharger Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 Ratchet strap works good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 I'm looking at some options. Are the factory straps 1" or 0.75" wide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 Probably 25mm, so almost 1". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 3:01 PM, procharger said: Ratchet strap works good I had been looking for a ratchet strap for years (not very hard) that is just one single long piece of webbing attached to one side. I had just now discovered they exist and they're called "endless" ratchet straps, because they have no hook ends or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Tom Baker said: Probably 25mm, so almost 1". Thanks...I have a solution inbound that's very similar to factory, I'll let ya'll know how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted September 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2023 19 hours ago, FlyingMonkey said: Thanks...I have a solution inbound that's very similar to factory, I'll let ya'll know how it works. Keep us looped in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiny.ice Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 On 8/29/2023 at 10:47 AM, Animosity2k said: I do have a CTLSi, and I though that was my issue but I changed the routing. Any chance you can snap a pic next time your around your plane on how yours is routed? Thanks Tom! Here are a couple pix of the CTLSi seat strap. Hope it helps a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted September 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 On 9/9/2023 at 10:38 PM, shiny.ice said: Here are a couple pix of the CTLSi seat strap. Hope it helps a bit. Thanks, I'll go up to hangar and mess w it today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctbob Posted October 5, 2023 Report Share Posted October 5, 2023 The simplest way that I found was to tie the free end of the strap into a simple overhand knot. Works well with my 260# butt that kept failing the strap buckle and left me in a panic looking up with a major stretch to maneuver the stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 I wanted to give them a little more testing time before posting this, but they seem to be working so here you go. I put these traps in my airplane and so far they are working out well, no slipping and my seat doesn't contact the rear bulkhead without tying a knot in the strap: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082MTFQ4L?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 They have thicker webbing and larger, sharper teeth than the factory straps -- they fit right in place. The straps are 9ft long so you'll have to either trim them or let them dangle behind the seats. For $20 I think it's a good upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctbob Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 When I said tying a simple knot in the free end of the strap I should have included tying right at the exit of the clasp, not the actual end. Simply loop the end immediately behind the strap, bring it around and then through the base of the loop, and pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassStripFlyBoy Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 9 hours ago, ctbob said: When I said tying a simple knot in the free end of the strap I should have included tying right at the exit of the clasp, not the actual end. Simply loop the end immediately behind the strap, bring it around and then through the base of the loop, and pull. That's how my SW was as purchased, adjusted it once to my seat position most upright, and it's held since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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