207WF Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 After four years the early signs of an aging battery are starting to appear. I was wondering what the best replacement is, where can I get it and how much? WF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 The replacement is the Odyssey PC 310. They are on sale at a few places for around $157 and free shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanik Posted August 14, 2011 Report Share Posted August 14, 2011 If you just deep cycle charge/discharge yours a few times with a good charger, then it will shake off cobwebs. These batteries should last 10+ years. My battery was also cranking poorly 2 years ago. I've got the battery charging at the right voltage now with a diode in the Ducati regulator circuit. No more alternator light issues and hard cranking even if I haven't flown in a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airhound Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Can the special Odyssey PC 310 Battery Charger be used on other non-Odyssey batteries? If not have one from Sebring for sale half price if anyone interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanik Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Yes, if they are AGM type (absorptive glass mat). Most Pb batteries are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentuckynet Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 My battery is 5 years old, i keep it on the battery minder thingy....works with no problems at all. However should i worry when i fly all the way across the country to page? Around here who cares if it dies i just wont fly that day and order one. Opinions???? thanks mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josjonkers Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Me personally, I would replace it knowing it has been>5 years and you are planning a long Xcountry trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 26, 2011 Report Share Posted August 26, 2011 Hi Mack, You got your monies worth. Replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike g Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 hello everyone,, new to this forum,,, hope all is good with everyone & i get to meet alot of new friends,,, i have a ctsw,,, i've been through 3 batteries already,,, i went to ny the other day,, stayed over 1 night came back & it wouldn't turn over,,, any help would be appreciated,,,,, when at my base at ewb, i keep on the tender,,, others that have lsa,,, say they never have to put thiers on a tender,,,, i just don't get it & could you also tell me what other battery i can put in my ctsw that is compatable & cheaper than the orange one,,lol thank you any input,,,, mike g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Hi Mike, The orange battery is an Odyssey PC310. You have an issue with a power drain or a bad ground that isn't allowing it to charge properly or a combo of both. You need to find that. The battery usually tends to last 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chanik Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Me personally, I would replace it knowing it has been>5 years and you are planning a long Xcountry trip. Test it. Properly charged these batteries should last 8+years. Mine is 7 and still has good capacity. You probably don't have a DC electronic load handy, so I would recommend you improvise. Start with a fresh charge then run just the 100W landing light (about 8Amp load) and see how long before the system voltage drops to 10V. A new battery should be about 45min. If you manage 25 or better then save your money. Careful to use a damp rag or maybe a fan to keep the bulb enlcosure cool. I'm not sure you won't start to burn the fiberglass cowl with a continuous 100W in still air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 After four years the early signs of an aging battery are starting to appear. I was wondering what the best replacement is, where can I get it and how much? WF Hi Wayne, There is a local battery shop in Culver City that sells the Odyssey PC310 (stocks it on the shelf) for $167.00. I have bought one from them in the past (when I killed the battery in my CTSW). Perfect fit, easy install. Advanced Battery 5649 Mesmer Ave. Culver City, Ca 90230 Toll Free: 1-800-464-4796 Phone: (310) 482-3799 Fax: (310) 482-3792 mail@absbattery.com http://abs.advancedb...chFor=&PT_ID=14 Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Hi Mike, Check here. Free shipping. Find the bad ground or power drain first. As Kurt said these battery's should last a long time. No one worries about charging on a cross country. The battery should be okay even if left alone for 3 weeks provided your aircraft is charging it properly when flying. If you need to try a to jump a dead battery or charge it that is the purpose of the wire that hangs out the bottom of the plane just under the engine. It is a direct feed to the positive on the battery and then clip the negative to the exhaust pipe. http://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc310-battery.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4Flier Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 My Varta battery in my Sting died after 4.5 years and, of course, did so as I was going to leave on a weekend trip. Remembered that my importer had recently approved Interstate. There is an interstate battery shop about 1/2 mile from the airport so I went over and bought a cycle tron II for $79. Can't comment on longevity but can't beat the convenience. May not be approved for CTs, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Roger, I see that Amazon sells an Odyssey 310-P which is shown as an 8 Ah with the same size and about the same price. Any reason it will not work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Oops, sorry, it is this one - also an Odyssey 310. http://www.amazon.com/Odyssey-Sealed-Powersport-Battery-YTX9-BS/dp/B005ZK90Q0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_4 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 That's the one on Amazon, but if they charge shipping it will be more expensive than the one from BatteryMart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airhound Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 That's the one on Amazon, but if they charge shipping it will be more expensive than the one from BatteryMart I was cautioned to check mfg dates when spliting the coin. As in you'll get what you pay for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Sorry, My point was there are two batteries on Amazon both are 310s. One is a 310-P which is 7Ah, the other (the one I posted) is also a 310, but it is 8Ah. Both AGM. I don't know what the difference is, or if one is approved and the other not. As far as shipping, I happen to have Amazon Prime so 2nd day is free, but otherwise the price is about the same as quoted above. The only real issue is that I am not in need of a battery at this point, just want to know what to get if I find the winter temps in ND/MN causes an issue. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 The 5 second cranking power of Odyssey batteries is double to triple that of equally sized conventional batteries, even when the temperature is as low as - 40° C. Also, with simple constant voltage charging (alternator or independent charger), there is no limitation on the inrush current, so the user is assured of a fast charge. Specifications: BM Part #:PC310 Voltage:12 Volt Capacity:7 Ah Type:Drycell Warranty:2 Year Shipping Weight:6.00 Pounds Length:5.43" Width:3.39" Height:3.98" Drycell Battery Without Metal Jacket 12 Volt 7 Ah @ 10hr rate 100 CCA 310 Cranking Amps for 5 Seconds 9 Minute Reserve Capacity Cycle life @ 77° F 400 at 100% DOD -40° F to 140° F Temperature Range More Specs: (Adobe PDF) Features: 3 to 10 year service life, when properly maintained. 99.9% pure lead providing minimal plate corrosion Explosion proof Corrosion proof 2 to 3 times the cranking power of equilivant size battery Spill and leak proof Superior vibration resistance Fully Charged out of the box When fully charged can be stored for up to 2 years at 77° F May be installed on its sides at any angle without sacrificing performance attributes Military grade version of the Hawker Genesis 2 Year Full Powersports Warranty Made in the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airhound Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Sorry, My point was there are two batteries on Amazon both are 310s. One is a 310-P which is 7Ah, the other (the one I posted) is also a 310, but it is 8Ah. Both AGM. I don't know what the difference is, or if one is approved and the other not. As far as shipping, I happen to have Amazon Prime so 2nd day is free, but otherwise the price is about the same as quoted above. The only real issue is that I am not in need of a battery at this point, just want to know what to get if I find the winter temps in ND/MN causes an issue. Doug Doug, this is Doug in IL.....all I was trying to indicate is, perhaps buying one with less shelf life, is a worthy goal....not sure, but have been told its worth knowing what you're getting when it comes to dates of mfg....and the overall strength of the battery....not sure if it matters....just sayin......Anybody else have an opinion on the subject of battery shelf age? Also, not sure how long they sit based on demand, what other kinds of machines use the 310??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N89WD Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I just purchased the PC-310 from Rogers source. $155.00 or so with no shipping. I should have asked for a fresh date code, the one I received had a 03/11 date code. THe battery still has a 2 yr free replacement warranty, so it's is't all good. I would recommend just checking your external voltage in climb out or cruise, some sort of high power setting. You should see 13.8v or so even with all the bells on. If your not retaining that check all your grounds. Possibly the regulator may be getting lazy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 My Sky Arrow now uses an Odyssey PC680 battery. I'm EXPERIMENTAL, so I did not have to go with the original FIAMM or get an LOA. I think the rational thing here is to use the "Most Conservative Action" rule. Compare the cost of the battery to the cost of the airplane and its a tiny, tiny expense in the big picture. Given the inconvenience of an unexpected failure, and the stress on the engine if you try to crank it with a marginal battery, I think it makes sense to budget in the cost of a new battery every other year. I mean, we're talking at most a $70 annual expense (I think my Odyssey was about $140 last time I got one). I'm lucky that my Odyssey battery fits my BMW motorcycles, so they get the "hand-me-downs". Otherwise you could keep the battery on a periodic trickle charge and use it as a spare, or as a source of 12v on your bench, or in your lawn tractor or whatever. I know money is tight, but this seems like money well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 OK, one more time - Amazon sells two different 310s-- one is 7Ah, the other is 8Ah -- .... Why the difference in Ah?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 The 7ah battery looks to be a little older battery and or print from Amazon because Odyssey list the newer ones at 8 ah? Go with the 8 ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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